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		<title>By: Saju</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

 Sorry I still have to stand by arguments. Here are my remarks to your comments

#1 - This doesn&#039;t compute. Your post is about how to retain your job in a recession when companies tend to layoff. Here is how I have seen companies respond to dips in economy
   a. Put a hiring freeze in place throughout the company
   b. Identify and layoff a % of employees - usually based on previous performance (or rather the lack of)
Rinse and repeat every few months till market snaps back or you are are running lean. How then does a company start a new project without having people to staff it ?. Adobe fired 10% of its employees and I very much doubt if they are starting a project that they will need a lead for.

The gist of your point is &quot;try to become crucial for your project so you can&#039;t be replaced &quot; and the gist of my argument is that the recession is already here - lots of layoffs already happened and it&#039;s a bit too late to begin now to be crucial.

#5. Please. This is a very vague point. Having good blogging etiquette doesn&#039;t make you popular. Popularity happens - hardwork is definitely very important - but &quot;Go and become popular&quot; is by no means an actionable answer for someone trying to save his job.

#6 - Ok agreed. I replied assuming you were talking about in-house training. I have had no experience otherwise. 

#7. Don&#039;t agree. Writing technical articles is *not* dead simple. It needs a lot of patience, lots of cross checking and did I mention competence ? I believe people capable of writing world class technical articles will not be worried about job security.

#8. I wasn&#039;t even thinking about the government actually.  I don&#039;t have experience with govt employeers and I don&#039;t know if they are &quot;ok&quot; hiring not so good people. I retract my earlier argument.

#3 &amp; #4 - Being good is a real PITA. Unless you are blessed with a natural appetite for software - you need to put in tons of time reading and practicing. &quot;Being good&quot; doesn&#039;t happen overnight - it takes months and depending on how you classify &quot;good&quot; it may take years. But really you are making no argument here - a good person wouldn&#039;t be worried about job security as much and you simply don&#039;t have time to start &quot;being good&quot;. To start &quot;being good&quot; now will be a PITA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p> Sorry I still have to stand by arguments. Here are my remarks to your comments</p>
<p>#1 &#8211; This doesn&#8217;t compute. Your post is about how to retain your job in a recession when companies tend to layoff. Here is how I have seen companies respond to dips in economy<br />
   a. Put a hiring freeze in place throughout the company<br />
   b. Identify and layoff a % of employees &#8211; usually based on previous performance (or rather the lack of)<br />
Rinse and repeat every few months till market snaps back or you are are running lean. How then does a company start a new project without having people to staff it ?. Adobe fired 10% of its employees and I very much doubt if they are starting a project that they will need a lead for.</p>
<p>The gist of your point is &#8220;try to become crucial for your project so you can&#8217;t be replaced &#8221; and the gist of my argument is that the recession is already here &#8211; lots of layoffs already happened and it&#8217;s a bit too late to begin now to be crucial.</p>
<p>#5. Please. This is a very vague point. Having good blogging etiquette doesn&#8217;t make you popular. Popularity happens &#8211; hardwork is definitely very important &#8211; but &#8220;Go and become popular&#8221; is by no means an actionable answer for someone trying to save his job.</p>
<p>#6 &#8211; Ok agreed. I replied assuming you were talking about in-house training. I have had no experience otherwise. </p>
<p>#7. Don&#8217;t agree. Writing technical articles is *not* dead simple. It needs a lot of patience, lots of cross checking and did I mention competence ? I believe people capable of writing world class technical articles will not be worried about job security.</p>
<p>#8. I wasn&#8217;t even thinking about the government actually.  I don&#8217;t have experience with govt employeers and I don&#8217;t know if they are &#8220;ok&#8221; hiring not so good people. I retract my earlier argument.</p>
<p>#3 &#038; #4 &#8211; Being good is a real PITA. Unless you are blessed with a natural appetite for software &#8211; you need to put in tons of time reading and practicing. &#8220;Being good&#8221; doesn&#8217;t happen overnight &#8211; it takes months and depending on how you classify &#8220;good&#8221; it may take years. But really you are making no argument here &#8211; a good person wouldn&#8217;t be worried about job security as much and you simply don&#8217;t have time to start &#8220;being good&#8221;. To start &#8220;being good&#8221; now will be a PITA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://saju.net.in/blog/?p=50&#038;cpage=1#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saju,

Interesting comments. Allow me to address:

#1 - Companies are starting new projects all the time. In my previous company I turned down the lead role on a few projects. If we had been in a recession I probably would have volunteered instead.

#5 - How to become popular? Hard work, amigo. I&#039;m certainly not going to go into how to become popular in this comment box, but if you really want to know how to become a popular blogger, for example, read the book Blog Blazers.

#6 - We&#039;re not talking about in-houce corporate training, we&#039;re talking about training individuals, where they pay to update their skills and receive certifications. There is undeniable evidence that the training business picks up drastically during a recession, and if you have training/teaching skills you can pick up extra work as a trainer.

#7 - Really? Writing technical articles is dead simple. Ask anyone who&#039;s done it. There&#039;s no magic here.

#8 - &quot;Recession proof companies tend to hire the best available folks&quot; - haha, stop! You&#039;re killing me! I worked for 2 recessions proof companies (the City of Pasadena and a Prepaid Credit Card Company), and let me tell you - they definitely did not hire the best people, and the best people have the same opinion as you - they don&#039;t want to work for Walmart or the government. But that&#039;s beside the point, of course, since this article isn&#039;t about your job satisfaction, it&#039;s about making it through the recession.

#3 &amp; #4 - Really? Being &quot;good&quot; is a pain in the backside? Then I must say, it seems to me that someone with that opinion is destined to get canned in the first round of layoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saju,</p>
<p>Interesting comments. Allow me to address:</p>
<p>#1 &#8211; Companies are starting new projects all the time. In my previous company I turned down the lead role on a few projects. If we had been in a recession I probably would have volunteered instead.</p>
<p>#5 &#8211; How to become popular? Hard work, amigo. I&#8217;m certainly not going to go into how to become popular in this comment box, but if you really want to know how to become a popular blogger, for example, read the book Blog Blazers.</p>
<p>#6 &#8211; We&#8217;re not talking about in-houce corporate training, we&#8217;re talking about training individuals, where they pay to update their skills and receive certifications. There is undeniable evidence that the training business picks up drastically during a recession, and if you have training/teaching skills you can pick up extra work as a trainer.</p>
<p>#7 &#8211; Really? Writing technical articles is dead simple. Ask anyone who&#8217;s done it. There&#8217;s no magic here.</p>
<p>#8 &#8211; &#8220;Recession proof companies tend to hire the best available folks&#8221; &#8211; haha, stop! You&#8217;re killing me! I worked for 2 recessions proof companies (the City of Pasadena and a Prepaid Credit Card Company), and let me tell you &#8211; they definitely did not hire the best people, and the best people have the same opinion as you &#8211; they don&#8217;t want to work for Walmart or the government. But that&#8217;s beside the point, of course, since this article isn&#8217;t about your job satisfaction, it&#8217;s about making it through the recession.</p>
<p>#3 &amp; #4 &#8211; Really? Being &#8220;good&#8221; is a pain in the backside? Then I must say, it seems to me that someone with that opinion is destined to get canned in the first round of layoffs.</p>
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